It doesn’t make sense…
Apparently exoplanet is BAFFLING astronomers for this reason. This thing is as big as Neptune and it is made of pure rock. Almost always when a planet reaches this size, or at least those observed by astronomers it involves some or all parts gas. Here is a bit more about this find:
BD+20594b sits about 500 light-years away in the constellation Aries. The planet is about 16 times as massive as Earth but just a little over twice as wide, making its density about 8 grams per cubic centimeter, Néstor Espinoza, an astrophysicist at the Pontifical Catholic University of Chile in Santiago, and colleagues report. Earth’s density, by comparison, is 5.5 grams per cubic centimeter.
The fact that it takes 42 days to orbit around its star may make a bit more sense here but it is still surprising to the team who spotted it.
Let’s check out a cool video on other mysterious exoplanets on page 2
You’re talking about scientific laws and I’m talking about laws of physics so, right there you’re off.
It’s completely exaggerated too.. the article suggests this planet is as big as Neptune but the quote says it’s twice as wide as Earth. Somebody missed astronomy class because Neptune is considerably bigger than twice the Earth.
Only way to prove it would be to either create a telescope capable of resolving small planets and their spectra or to actually travel to those planets. Everything else is theory. Everything. And any theory that fits the evidence or doesn’t contradict evidence is valid. I’ve tried to peel back the curtain between realities and can’t seem to find it. It follows that there may not be a curtain just distance. And distance would work better than a membrane or other barrier.
I can’t believe anyone believes any ot this.
It’s so wierd it’s impossible
Bobby, you just proved what Darren said.
Then cross check what it says with other sources.
Something tells me xevious doesn’t know what a scientific theory is, along with what constitutes as evidence.
We humans are a spec in the universe, we know next to nothing but think we do.
Xevious Walker: No one asked for proof, they asked for evidence. You made a bunch of claims and said that your “research” led you to your conclusions. What evidence do you have to support the claims you made?
They quoted (but did not cite where they got the quote) a Chilean astronomer who said that is as massive as Neptune, but has a volume of two Earths, giving it a high density.
Basically, the person who wrote the article heard about something unusual that astronomers discovered and then wrote a sensational click – bait article about it.
A lot of people are in the habit of jumping directly from “it can conceivably exist” to “I believe it exists”. They skip the whole “evidence” and “reason” parts that are supposed to go between those two other things.
Darren Bohannon that’s the part were waiting on
That’s crazy! It’s like….when i scatch my balls and i can’t stop scratching cause it feel so good. Kinda makes me wonder if there’s a billion ME’S scratching their balls and fewling really good about it. Amazing! I love science. And scatching my balls. I would like to invite you all to scatch my balls. Thx!
Xevious Walker, no….. My debunking holds true. Because no matter what our behavior on earth is, it wouldn’t add billions of stars. Maybe you should study the deep space hubble photos. There is a galaxy that is 8 times the size of the milky way. There is no way, I don’t give a$#%&!@*what we do, that we can increase the size and number of planets in our solar system. Now stop with this bullshit and go back to bed. You’re getting delusional.
I like your train of thought here but if aliens aren’t allowed to come here, I’d wager it’s more so a rule of a civilization, not god. Perhaps they have a rule about interfering with other intelligent life that hasn’t reached its genetic and technological prime yet, or perhaps they have no qualms about uplifting a species, but they view us as volatile, and as such have decided to avoid us until we evolve, or they have to put us down. Definitely very interesting stuff to think about.
Earth days lol
I like your train of thought I believe you could be right
It would be like the federation prime directive in star trek that they are not allowed to tamper with other civilizations cultures in any way, Kirk kept getting in trouble for disobeying this order- to alien cultures we’re the aliens.
Well, size is relative. A rock is a rock. Im sure out there somewhere is a “rock” thats twice the size of our sun. Space is big and most of it we have no idea about.
All theoretical pseudoscience, you find credited evidence that has been published then share it . There is zero evidence to support your claims. Your claims of alternate realities existing outside of ours is one you said you reached through research of the Multiverse. What evidence lead you to this hypothesis ? Anything at all?
Thousands of hours of reading and searching reports of events that should have released more than enough energy to have an effect. I can’t recite the authors or employers of any of the thousands of things I have read. My mind doesn’t work that way. I’ve also read the entire Bible several times and can’t give you a single chapter and verse of where anything is said. But I know what’s in there and what I read.
And also made of solid rock. Unheard of when exoplanets reach a certain size like this one.
Xevious Walker I can appreciate a good hypothesis that deserves further study. That’s what you’re describing.. a hypothesis, not a theory. When you claim it’s a theory you are required to provide evidence for it to be defined as such. If you want your hypothesis to be respected as a theory, you’ll need to prove how it coincides with current data AND predicts future discoveries.
I’d be interested to hear more about your hypothesis if I had more to ponder but at this point you’re asking others to make your hypothesis a theory. I’m afraid you won’t get many people to bite on that… except very credulous people.
My only evidence is logic. I can see it perfectly in my mind. I wish I could show people.
Aisha Husain
I can see pink unicorns in mine…if only others could see them too
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Darren Bohannon: We would conceive that there could be some external (peer reviewed) evidence that would be easily available for these claims. As a Neuroscience major I cannot start anything of intellectual value without providing a reliable source. Likewise, by doing so, I govern respect and reverence to those who have worked hard on their research within the field.
Xevious Walker: Tribbles hate Klingons. This tribble hates Worf. Therefore, Worf is a Klingon. Those statements are logically valid, since the statements are consistent. If logic was all the evidence I needed, then I could go ahead and argue that tribbles and Klingons actually exist. If I don’t first establish that tribbles and Klingons exist and establish that tribbles actually have the characteristics I have assigned them using EVIDENCE, then it doesn’t matter.
Logic is not the only evidence you need, because logic REQUIRES evidence to function. The fact that you continue to just tell everyone how hard you worked and how much evidence you have instead of just telling people what the evidence is, the more obvious it is that you are just making excuses.
Put up or shut up.
Kevin Wright: It’s obviously not impossible, since we found that exoplanet.
Sure. G I ve me access to the latest and best telescopes and satellites. Otherwise evidence would be impossible.
Xevious Walker You don’t have to have personal access to telescopes and satellites to present evidence, you dunce. The people who do have access to those instruments publish their findings in peer-reviewed journals. If the experts publish evidence that supports your claims, then you can present that evidence. If you’re out there on the fringe, unsupported by the people who devote their entire professional lives to studying the universe, then you’ve got nothing.
Since you’ve basically admitted you can’t put up, that means it’s time for you to shut up.
Darren: YOU didn’t find$#%&!@*
No one has done a systemic survey of yellow dwarf stars looking for similar planetary types. If they have they haven’t published where I could read it. You’d have to see many stellar systems like ours if my “hypothesis” is true. You’d h a ve to be able to do surveys of other galaxies looking for the same thing. That’s not yet possible.
I just read a thing on a science blog that said over half of the exoplanets discovered aren’t even planets at all
And yet humans are concerned about wanting to live forever.
Xevious Walker: Right, so you are further demonstrating that you do not actually have evidence to justify your position. Anyone can play the make-believe game. If you want other people to take your ideas seriously, then you need to be able to back them up when asked.
You are putting the cart before the horse. You have ideas about how the universe works that make you feel good, and then you try to look for evidence to show that your ideas are right. That thought process fails the instant someone asks you to justify your position, because the only justification you have are your feelings. You have demonstrated that this is the case here.
Real science is evidence first, and then conclusions that are drawn from that evidence. Pseudoscience is what you’re doing.
Humanity has been given so many chances. We know next to nothing about the past of the human. Besides stories and wise tales. I believe that whoever created us is keeping a close eye. And when the human race of the time is at a point of destruction and no return. They or it interferes aka extinction. Then the cycle begins again. Just my opinion.
Astronomers are wrong about 3/4 of the time. They compile many theories upon a prior wrong theory then act shocked they are wrong over & over. Even nasa has yet 2 figure out the direct connection between physics prime numbers 2 our own solor system. The important placements of 3rd planet is perfect 4 life- 5th orbital sysyem – 6th planet is 7th orbit – 7th planet is 8th orbit- pluto is 10 orbit but 9th planet in a 2part rock self rotation (5+5=10 & the anomaly of 9/00) that crosses its prior orbital system ect…. Research the prime # gap & ponder our solor system- physics is math & our solor system is suitable 4 life because its ballanced 2 mathematical prime #’s. Nasa is ignorant!
Xevious Walker, you have no hypothesis and your “thought theory” sucks.
There’s probably no such thing as impossible, except for the term ‘impossible’. Just humans assuming thier perceptions are correct, not considering often enough the vast amount of knowledge qnd understanding we don’t yet have.
It’s funny how offended people get at other suggestions. Everything you know started as a thought is someone elses. But if you learn it over and over, I suppose you just get mad when someone thinks different. I love science, but it’s clear most accepted theories are suggestions like every human can make. If it’s rare, we conditioned ourselves to get angry and bash it. I’m not claiming anything, other than convincing words are too often confused as evidence. It’s happened over and over if people think about time. An accepted theory, opposed bashed, then a hundred years passes and the accepted theory crumbles and “oh now we understand why they thought that, they didn’t have THIS data.” Until that happens again, and again. Don’t get me wrong, I think we are accurate with lots of aspects science. But how long before the masses accept how easily anyone is fooled, and stop getting offended when we realise just how much we still don’t know. We’ve been here for a blink. We are babies, not masters. But oh, do people think they are!
If extraterrestrials are waiting for humans to reach a pivotal stage, it probably wouldn’t be long. I’d think if it’s the case, logically, we’d first have to quantify the consciousness, the moment we understand what makes self awareness so distinct being the same moment we have the ability to create one. Consciousness is what separates us from the rest of the material universe. Understanding it is likely key. Plus, if we were created, a code proving that intelligent design would be best protected within the electrical makeup of our consciousness.
We can’t even find our knife lol
Fractal
I don’t think they skip it darren, I mean yeah some do. But most just don’t have it readily available and time is always the factor. I’m glad we can perceive so many possiblilities. Makes me proud of humans. Not just sticking to only one safe theory that could be disproved a hundred years from now with billions not knowing what else to think.
Jimmy DiFrancesco: Climb down off your high horse for a second, and you’ll see that Trent and I have been asking Xevious for evidence to support his claims. He’s claiming to have a factual understanding about the mechanics of existence, born from “Thousands of hours” of research, but is signally incapable of presenting ANYTHING when asked.
I’m not offended by his lack of intellectual integrity, but I’m certainly not impressed either. Scientific theories are explanations of how the universe works based on mountains of research that has been verified and reproduced by countless other professionals who spend their whole lives contributing to their fields. Accepted theories may not be totally true, but that is determined by evidence, not wishful thinking and thought experiments.
You can get back on your horse now and go play white knight for some other intellectually lazy armchair astrophysicist. The rest of us will continue to reject Xevious’ claims until he develops the intellectual integrity he needs to defend his position with actual evidence.
Your observations are total disciplines of logic
You have 7 strokes and let’s see how much you can keep up with. My “hypothesis” stands on it’s own and will one day be either proved or disproved. The technology doesn’t exist to prove it yet.
It is an interesting thought. I get what your saying, and where your thought process went with it. That being said, like the others said, it’s just a hypothesis. A very weak one at that. The galaxies we see exist in our universe. That very fact eliminates the possibility of them being in a multiverse. If other universe’s exist, we wouldn’t know, we can’t even see outside our own universe. How could we ever know what is in another universe of if there are any? That and the extreme difference in size and appearance should SCREAM at the logical mind, that your hypothesis is wrong. I’m sorry, it just is bro.