The comments in this particular YouTube thread are very inquisitive which is not always the case with YT.
Commenter Anthony had this to say:
Math in my opinion cannot be used to explain infinity. For example, we have a computer calculating PI. Lets just say it will calculate it forever. Now what happens when the universe ends and the computer ceases to work? In this scenario PI is still not infinite because the universe ended before it reached infinity. Not that it ever could reach infinity even if the universe did not end. My opinion is that infinity cannot contain time or space, neither a have beginning or and end or exist inside a universe that will eventually end. I understand this infinity topic is a paradox and no one is right or wrong, but using math to explain it, does not make sense when this universe will end someday. This makes infinity impossible within our finite universe… AND Do not tell me some type of infinity inside this universe will survive when it ceases to exist…..
Joey F replied to his question:
The decimals of Pi exist regardless of our calculation of them. Also if the universe did “end”, what would be left?:
Anthony replied:
PI is not substantial it is basically math, a tool, For example, a law cannot do anything unless it is told what to do or used by intelligence to manipulate the outcome, Just like PI it is a mathematical tool and when using it has a starting point with some type of reference to time.. Therefore if the Universe ends, The only thing remaining just speculation is the very thing that started it. I really can’t say for sure I don’t know, but if that’s not the case then nothing would exist because infinity I don’t believe could ever be attaind inside a universe with time for the simple fact everything has a starting point with time as a reference. That’s in itself constitutes a beginning, even if it went forever PI it would never reach infinity…Just not logical, The whole topic is a paradox.
This is a debate for the ages what do you think? Feel free to comment!
Infinity is easy to understand accepting it is not…
Actully the current model states that the universe will rip it’s self apart due to dark energy.
To me infinity has to be real . The universe is expanding , but it has to be expanding into something , even if that something is nothing . Our universe is a expanding bubble , so what’s outside that bubble ?
Infinity means to me! *abstract concept*
If you leave earth from any point on the globe there is no end or beginning, just there with growing Stars and planets as well as dying. THE CYCLE OF EVERYTHING
The age of the Universe
The Pleiadians/Plejarens explained that Earth scientists are wrong in very many things, like for example in regards to the age of the Universe. About that, Billy Meier received very specific information from the people coming from planet Erra, who stated completely different facts to those which is being presented by Earth’s scientists. While the Earth scientists assert the age of our Universe to be 8-18 billion years, the Pleiadians/Plejarens reported to him that the age they calculated is in fact 46.5 trillion years, calculated from the so called big bang.
The Universe, they explained to him, consists of seven different belts and it was created from an idea of an Ur-Creation, and in fact as a twin universe. The gigantic domain, in which galaxies with all their sun systems and planets etc. exist, is called the material belt, and only in this area are earth scientists currently able to explore, whereby they are still a long way from reaching its boundaries, which are constantly expanding due to the expansion of the Universe.
Furthermore, in this material belt, there exist a constant renewal and replacement, whereby in fact only younger matter and galaxies etc. can be researched and observed, due to the fact that these disappear again, after a certain number of billions of years, and become pure energy and then again gases, which again conglomerate and form new galaxies, suns and planets. Thus the Pleiadians/Plejarens stated that the oldest matter found by them is 38 billion years old. This is precisely because of the constant renewal and replacement in the material belt, which represents the visible universe, allows no matter becoming very old, when one view 38 billion years as simply not being very old.
The age of galaxies, suns and planets etc. are not calculated by the Pleiadians/Plejarens from the point in time when these objects exist as solid bodies, but the calculation is based from the time when the first finest gases form, from which quarks, atoms, molecules and particles formed, which over time converged and solidified. Once dispersed, they again amassed, rotated and densified, until everything in the end became so compact that solid matter was created from it, which constantly attracted further masses and grew bigger and bigger. This was also how the Milky Way Galaxy and its solar systems came into existence and by same token the Earth, which, according to information from the Pleiadians/Plejarens started to form as a solid terrestrial body for about 46 trillion years ago, which then for about 5 billion years ago became to such extent solidified that life could slowly start to develop on it from this time onwards.
Einstein wasn’t always right!!!
…..we only know what we think we know at the time we think we know it…….but that can change!
I believe a Multiverse. Billions and billions of other universe bubbles just floating in a space called a Multiverse. Like the endless ocean.
And our tax dollars go into this?? Is this really necessary to know?
Let’s not
Infinity is portrayed in front of us all the time. Everything on a subatomic and molecular level all the way to the rotation of galaxies..it is a taroidal pattern always. This is the symbal of infinity, litterally…the sideways figure 8 is a taroid. The end is the begining there never was a begining because it already happened and never occurred. There is nothing but infinity. Nothing ends it all only changes.
This is say Emory Barton we are not trying to belittle. Thats childish. I beleive what Kent Douglas means is the initial point is not 0. Just because you have a preference of 0 doesnt mean thats where it begins. In a ray a point of origin can be anywhere. And when calculating parabolas you use many points to determine where it all lines up (lines up lol puns). Dont think of it so negatively lol im on a roll. Negative 2 apples is a thing actually. If i have 2 apples and i owe you 2 apples and kent steals them then i have negative two apples. There remains a litteral infinite number of apples but my perception is two negative apples. I say there are infinite apples because i could grow them and never run out. Now i dont want you to think i think youre wrong. In fact everything you said is true..maybe just not the way you understood it.
Negative apples. Is
Wrong ideas are possible
And yes the universe is infinitly stupid and point less (finish it off with a full circle pun).
Now kent i dont beleive numbers prove infinity. I beleive numbers are another format in which we interpret infinity. Nature shows us infinity. We use our understanding to interpret what is around us.
Tell me when you see something end. Then ill agree
Ha i love it. Like we all waste our time debating obsessions of nothingness.
And it actually kind of does have to do with rocket science.
Everything
The cycle would mean infinity
Infinite multiverses. It all happens so it never happens. No possibility is any more real than any other. So they all occur. Causing every decision to be null except for personal interpretation which that to me is the point. Your personal feelings make life worth something. Thats all
The imagination game.
U trynna b a smart$#%&!@*or acttually trynna put in input?
Cant tell if u trollin or u scrollin
The creator made science and math and nature and everything to show us itself. We are meant to understand. We are told not to. I wont listen to you. You tell me to ignore the creator? You may not mean to. But i am in tune with what is infinite and it is love. Man is capable of true endless love.
Thanks Ricky Roberts. It is to ponder what we are and what life is. All other obsessions are truly meaningless. Made up ideas. All that matters is….matter.
Of course but infinity is a human concept loosely based on time. Time is a human construct. Some things like time are only relevant to our life forms.
I like your attitude Anthony. I think we all are in a chaotic world and trying to make sense of it all. You made a new Allie whether we agree on disagree.
Kent Douglas bust y’all asses with knowledge and he was humble about it. Mic drop. Bang..friend request sent. And they thought he lacks intelligence.
Expansion and contraction in the universal level only ends after the source of energy is gone. Compare to our heart.
Sam Beckett steps into the accelerator..
Time is relative. Nuff said.
Nothing has never existed
Can infinity be achieved? Can infinity be reached? Well no. Thus offers the true nature and a most simple explanation of infinity in itself. When you get half way there, you still have infinity to go. Because 10% of infinity is still infinity. But does this mean that it can not be conceived, and will this realization show the lack of infinity? First of all when we as human discovered infinity through mathematics, we thus acknowledged its existence, and the different types of infinity. The countable infinity that exists in whole numbers and the uncountable that exists in-between one and zero. If you can imagine a super computer counting for the rest of existence but never reaching an end, then you can conceive it. When the universe reaches its ultimate demise thus putting an end to infinity, does that’s mean that it never existed in the first place? Well also no, because the end of the universe spells the end of everything that ever existed, but this doesn’t mean that nothing ever existed in the first place. So if you can show me the end of pi, or a definite end to our numeric vocabulary, then I guess you have solved the ultimate mathematical mystery. Does anyone agree or disagree?
INFINITY is a perpetual loop of MOMENT with no beginning and no ending. There is some truth in the the belief that everything has a beginning. A virtual beginning with a virtual ending. If this is true – Then the beginning that raises from the ashes of the same Cosmic dust is not a new beginning but a continuation of the old. A new beginning has none of the old. A new beginning has different physical properties – separated only by instances of so-called ‘Endings’.
Having not watched the video yet (but plan too). I truly believe the human mind cannot fathom or understand the true definition of infinite, we as the human race only know limitations. So how can we apply our limitations to something that has none?
Even utilizing math I feel still does not capture the essence of eternal, because in math you must start somewhere whereas eternity has no starting point.
Infinity is circular, Light is circular, Time is circular. Wait long enough you could bite yourself on the$#%&!@* boom
How About ….. Just a Thought !!
Anything that has a beginning has an ending no exceptions
I am not who you think I am. You are what you think I am.
Its there and back again
Infinity is perpetual. Our DNA even though separated – by great distances from the physical body – is electrically connected together by Consciousness. What emotion the physical body feel – the DNA feels the same emotion. Upon death Consciousness elevate to a higher plain of existence – until it is time to be born again. We lived many lives. We lived each other lives. There is no death. Death is human constructed. We are One with the Universe. A fine example of Infinity.
Remember Buzz Lightyear’s famous quote.
Problem solved…