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The science of endless time is debated yet this guy thinks he figured it out. In a fascinating video, they examine this notion. There are opinions from all perspectives on this one.
The one philosopher near the start of the video states infinity is an illusion just like the speed of light once was. Does this even make sense?
There are people on both sides of the debate here, and this is a strong opposing view that has lasted for centuries. Well here is a fascinating video covering this controversial topic:
“The infinite! No other question has ever moved so profoundly the spirit of man,” said David Hilbert, one of the most influential mathematicians of the 19th century. A subject extensively studied by philosophers, mathematicians, and more recently, physicists and cosmologists, infinity still stands as an enigma of the intellectual world. Thinkers clash over questions such as: Does infinity exist? Can it be found in the physical world? What types of infinity are there? Through an interdisciplinary discussion with some of the world’s leading thinkers, this program will delve into the many facets of infinity and address some of the deepest questions and controversies that mention of the infinite continues to inspire.
Let’s find out what these philosophers and scientists have to say about infinity in the video on page 2
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Time is only a mesursement of its own existence
This doesnt sit right wit me
And all the people talking about what they believe is right….. Lol its not about belief…… Theres a way it is…. We will figure it out… Even if there is nothing left……if the nothingness is infinite then theres your infinity
I found it comical that there was an ad for a 30 year mortgage at the bottom.
Human beings like Eric Blake ? Jason McBride? What are you?
I understand that matter needs space to exist.. But explain to me your reasoning for saying that without time space and matter can’t exist.. That’s where you lose me. Time is not necessary because time is not a real thing. You are really stretching the definition of abstract to say that without time there is nothing.
Time is an illusion – lunchtime doubly so.
– Douglas Adams
Time obviously exists. Trees and animals have been ravaged by time way before we were in the picture. Plus if there is no beginning or end, how do stars die and how are planets formed?
Exactly lol that’s why next gen is the s**t
You are all the universe. You were all made in it’s own image and likeness biologically , atomically, and spiritually. You are within the creator as the creator is within you.
Time is only relative to the observer
A circle is infinite so why not time
Time is nothing but a construct of the mind, so unless the mind is infinite, time does not exist. If the mind or conscience is infinite thus would mean the beginning of time started when the mind perceived it, and ends when the mind or conscience has no need for time.
I struggled with this same question for a while but time does exist. Yes we gave it the name, we may not fully understand it or could end up being way off about it, but we know enough to prove our concept of time represents something other than the three spatial dimensions.
For instance, without the concept of time how can you have a sense of rhythm? Our physical mass is actually dependent on how fast we are moving. The idea of speed is meaningless without an idea of time. It’s proven as we move faster are mass expands. Even more interesting is time dilation. The way we experience time is affected by acceleration, which includes gravity. Studies show astronauts in space long enough actually live in lower gravity enough to have age less than those of us on earth’s surface. You can try thinking about biology/age without using the word ‘time’ but the more you dig the harder you’ll find it becomes.
Lastly there is Schrodinger’s wave equation. A great leap for the science community. The equation allows us to compare time components of waves (sub atomic particles) to the spatial components. Call it what you will, but the equation correctly compares something that aligns with our concept of time to spatial dimensions, and it works in the real world.
I struggled with this same question for a while but time does exist. Yes we gave it the name, we may not fully understand it or could end up being way off about it, but we know enough to prove our concept of time represents something other than the three spatial dimensions.
For instance, without the concept of time how can you have a sense of rhythm? Our physical mass is actually dependent on how fast we are moving. The idea of speed is meaningless without an idea of time. It’s proven as we move faster our mass expands. Even more interesting is time dilation. The way we experience time is affected by acceleration, which includes gravity. Studies show astronauts that live in space long enough actually age less than those of us on earth’s surface. You can try thinking about biology/age without using the word ‘time’ but the more you dig the harder you’ll find it becomes.
Lastly there is Schrodinger’s wave equation. A great leap for the science community. The equation allows us to compare time components of waves (sub atomic particles) to the spatial components. Call it what you will, but the equation correctly compares something that aligns with our concept of time to spatial dimensions, and it works in the real world.
Not true. If it were just movement dilation Schrodinger’s wave equation would not be a thing. It correctly compares some 4th component of waves to the three spatial dimensions, and that 4th component follows our understanding of time. Quantum mechanics aside, even simpler physics have a time component. F=Ma. Although not discussed in every physics class, that ‘a’ can be expanded to show our physical mass increases as our speed increases. Not our acceleration, but constant velocity.
I struggled with this same question for a while but time does exist. Yes we gave it the name, we may not fully understand it or could end up being way off about it, but we know enough to prove our concept of time represents something other than the three spatial dimensions.
For instance, without the concept of time how can you have a sense of rhythm? Our physical mass is actually dependent on how fast we are moving. The idea of speed is meaningless without an idea of time. It’s proven as we move faster our mass expands. Even more interesting is time dilation. The way we experience time is affected by acceleration, which includes gravity. Studies show astronauts that live in space long enough actually age less than those of us on earth’s surface. You can try thinking about biology/age without using the word ‘time’ but the more you dig the harder you’ll find it becomes.
Lastly there is Schrodinger’s wave equation. A great leap for the science community. The equation allows us to compare time components of waves (sub atomic particles) to the spatial components. Call it what you will, but the equation correctly compares something that aligns with our concept of time to spatial dimensions, and it works in the real world.
Interesting thought Jimmy. I think this universe is one of an infinite number of universes with a finite number of stuff within it. However, I do also think that time is a human concept. Time is relative and it is woven into the fabric of space itself. Perhaps space is what is what we are currently trying to figure out: “darkmatter.”
http://youtu.be/RB3g6mXLEKk
Then I guess god could be an answer….
Just because man can imagine something doesn’t make it real. Conversely, something that is real doesn’t require man to exist. The challenge is to determine reality without relying on imaginary constructs.
Ja Kob Thanks for your input. I’m not a physicist so while I don’t necessarily understand the math I would be very interested in how you would measure time without any relation to movement. Especially expansion. One question for me is whether that 4th component is expansion. For example, I’m walking to the grocery store with a certain velocity and maybe even acceleration (because its cold outside) but I’m also hurtling through space because of expansion. To my limited understanding of physics space-time are inextricably linked over the entire universe so I take that to mean that movement is traveling through space therefore it must also be traveling through time and visa verse. If there is a physics 101 video I can watch that would explain it for a novice like myself, that would be great.
I can’t get my mind around the stupid pop ups that prevent me from reading the article
Time moves very slow the last 20 minutes of work.
I hear so many people refer to proof of time based on the physical change of biological things.
Lets say 3 men are born at the exact same moment, and they will die at the exact same moment 100 years later.
The first man dies and we consider him 100 years old based on 100 revolutions around our star.
Now 5 minutes before the 2nd man dies he is some how sent through time 1000. He lives his last 5 minutes there and dies. How old is he? Is he a 100 year old man that died in the future or is he 1100 years old?
Now 5 minutes before the 3rd man dies he is frozen in cryogenic pod for 1000 years. When they unfreeze him he lives 5 minutes and dies. How old is he? Is he 1100 or 100.
Time is still a name we gave a force we dont understand and we used numbers to try and measure it. But putting numbers on it would mean it had a beginning and an end. Things dont just start from nothing. There has always been something even if it was just quantum energy. We still are just using points or events to start our count.
From the perspective of the 3 men they only experienced exactly 100 years of what we call time. Yet the time we measure for each of them was different. Did time stop for the frozen man? And now how do we decide whos perspective to measure time from?
The only thing that exist is the forever changing now.
Here is one more thing to consider.
My wife and I flew from the philippines to the us 5 years ago. We got on the plane in manila at 10pm on a Tuesday. After flying for 13 hours We landed in San Francisco at 8pm on Tuesday. Did we really travel back in time? Or did we simply change the point in which we measure time?
I think that what we would see as our universe ending would be the beginning of another Multiverse. Therefore time could be infinite. Although time is just a value we have come up with.
It’s because they’re looking at it from the inside out. Their perspective is all wrong.
Are you special?
Did that happen over night?
i get it.
I got it,its a cool painting.
Infinity cannot be measured with a central point , at any distance in any direction continues infinity in every direction from every point !mathematically (infinitely dimensionally divisible 0s with no measurable center)?
Time is Not a man made concept!!! Just because you & others cant comprehend Time upon the multi dimensional aspects as i do does not mean No1 can wrap their mind around Times True relevance 2 existence.
“If” Time dont exist how do you physically age? “If” Time dont exist how can it be measured? You cant mathematically measures something that dont exist. Simple minds have issues comprehending things they cant see or touch. Gravity cant be seen but it can be measured by weight & its effects can be seen, you cant touch gravity yet it touchs you. Light cant be seen til it hits a surface or creates a shadow but when it passes through the invisible heat of fire it creates a semi transparent shadow. Time is an energy source just as gravity, you cant see or touch it but it has a great hold upon you. Just as gravity holds you 2 earth, Time slowly touchs you with physical age.
Time is an impprtant aspect 2 quantum mechanics, you will never comprehend quantum mechanics upon the level i do & there4 i dont ecpect you 2 comprehend Time upon the level i do. Just as NASA is foolishly confused by gravities complex energy, even nasa cant grasp Time upon my level. I realized this when i applied 4 a grant & their reply was “we require futher details, we dont understand your report”
I dont blame others 4 not comprehending what i know, every1 is the product & result of their education,
I hold mathematical – geometrical- engineering knowledge 2 multi dimensional energy generation systems few will understand even if i explained how it works. Its not your fault you dont understand Time gravity dark energy blackholes ect ect. You’ve been taught lies since birth.
Time is as real as gravity & space. There exists classified proof 2 everything in existence, but you will never view it, even nasa has limited knowledge of its classified proof!
Ignorance is bliss- be happy you dwell in bliss. Most minds can not handle the full Truth! Comprehending Time is simple 2 wrap your mind around compared 2 the full aspects i know!
All that openeth the Matrix is mine, & its a heavy weight 2 hold.
I really hate the format of this page. YOU WON’T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENS ON THE NEXT PAGE!!!
Interesting titles, shitty clicks.
Thanks for the memories.
Time is not man-made, but the measurement of time is.
Math can describe the infinate. X/0…while we are taught dividing by 0 is “undefined”, if you think about it, it is the very definition of infinity. Look as it this way. If you have 5 friends and 0 cookies, you can give each friend X amount of imaginary cookies. So X/0 is a real number that does not exist. The only real number that does not exist is infinity.
No exactly. When the Babylon perfected earths time line of 60 by 60 by 24 they calculated the natural order of mathematical quantum mechanics. Ancient cultures comprehend the universal time line & times altercation from planets & galaxies vs universal time. Ancient cultures not only understood this aspect beyond NASAs knowledge but perfected the gears 2 build universal clocks. There have been many ancient mechanical universal clocks unearthed world wide that few could properly recreate even with modern tech.
The Babylon simply followed the natural order of earths mathematical quantum mechanics 2 calculate our planitsTime, its not a man made measurement , man kind simply learned 2 properly calculate it. Math is a highly coded language, im a code breaker that can litterly read math codes as a langue 2 energy & physics. Math codes create a universal map of multi dimensional existence as well as creates blueprints 2 alter any & every aspect of physics. Anti gravity- harnessing dark energy as an endless power source & many aspects the general public do not know even exists. Nature has a “back door” 2 everything & when the matrix’s door is unlocked nearly anything is achievable. Simply build a electro magnetic mechanical atom & you can alter everything from gravity 2 time space & beyond. Its actually simple Logic when you comprehend universal Pure energy!
Time as the average human is concerned is just linear distance, i.e, you cant be multiple places at once, or can you (QM plug)? Minutes, hours, years, time zones etc are all obviously arbitrary & shouldnt be too alien a concept, its just a “measure”(more like location) of relativity, of Earth to other things in our solar system. One could say its all just one continuing moment, but guess what, we divide the moment into units, so its kind of a moot point. As far as all your other assertions like “there has always been something”, Im assuming you mean “physical”, and unless you present any evidence, Im afraid its all just baseless conjecture. All your other “scenarios” are either science-fiction, or 100% speculation and cannot be addressed.
Oh, and “dark”(more accurately “invisible”) matter is almost completely, just a concept. Newtonian physics turned out to me wrong at the solar level, so they added a constant into the equation to make it work. Same with dark-energy. The only value they WOULD hold is to explain our obvservations, but even those are up for debate. What Im saying is, the ideas of dark-matter/energy wouldnt last 5 minutes in a court of law..
Patrick Hughes, would anything exist without a conscious observer?
My question is, if there was a big bang and there was nothing in existence before the big bang then what banged and why?
Lol ron ur debate comments hold no substance except the ability 2 repeat old saying. Im a code breaker- maybe you should solve the anomalies of math & balance them beyond 10 decimal points & cross that in2 the light octave chart & element chart of “unknown” aspects or figure out that radio waves start at the anomaly of 87.999 or solve the cross between the “lost” Babylon math of physics 2 the mayan calender that engineering the pyramids or break the code of the illuminati or learn how 2 comprehend anything beyond General education lies.
Simple minds are always unwilling 2 learn.
What i know i will never foolishly post proof of online & few would understand it anyway, but this summer i am going 2 post video in a 10 part series of my prototypes that alter gravity- harness universal energy & create energy rings of thrust w/in an enetgy sphere ect….
Average simple minded people often call geniuses craze because it helps you deal with the fact ur not smart enough 2 understand physics energy.
Time is simple, im far beyond that aspect- solve things yourself ron, im not posting 1000 page report here.
Call me crazy if it makes u sleep well ron, im far beyond what you’ll understand & dont care what simple ignorant minds think.
Sleep well in denial.
Ron, Read sir Frances bacons -quest of the ages-
I solved the age old mystery.
Im a code breaker & broke the master code of ancient history that solves hawkings-answer 2 everything.
You solve your own questions & we’ll see who files 1st 4 the Nobel Prizes that will alter humanity’s future. Break the code 2 coral castle & book-magnetic current- after u solve math & physical anomalies.
Start with anomalies of 5280 / 60 / 7 / 3
Clue- a foot has 12 inchs- energy has + & — a day is 2 12 hour cycles, 1 12 hr + & 1 12 hr — cycle cross that in2 the Babylon & mayan cycle counts of 21.
Learn 2 balance energy generation vs energy consumption in the numerical anomaly free cycle counts of ancient wisdom.
Even nasa dont calculate universal energy in2 space time mass gravity. Pure Energy created perpetual existence there4 energy must be factored in2 the continuum.
If NASAs physics math holds 5 of 7 calculations an anomaly & their math showes 87.9999 not 88.000 that means the universe is shrinking, but its expending perpetually there 4 the math should reflect it. Math is physics, math is a numeric code, learn prime # gaps & learn 2 Read codes as a silent language 2 frequencies & vibrations of universal energy.
If your so smart Ron these are clues 2 codes, open ur mind & learn 2 solve “anomalies” cause they’re actually mis calculations of Times cycles.
Crazy- no. Genius is even a understatement!
John 3:16,
I can calculate time from the beginning to the present one trillion one trillion one trillion twenty one degrees hot dog
You’re smart, I’ll give you that. But your grammar is horrible man.
Yes my grammer is horrible, i will not deny that. Im more of a scientist than an english teacher. I read & write mathematical codes & geometrically engineer energy systems more often then write in english.