To This Day No One Can Get Their Mind Around It..

STILL..

The science of endless time is debated yet this guy thinks he figured it out.  In a fascinating video, they examine this notion.  There are opinions from all perspectives on this one.

The one philosopher near the start of the video states infinity is an illusion just like the speed of light once was. Does this even make sense?

There are people on both sides of the debate here, and this is a strong opposing view that has lasted for centuries.  Well here is a fascinating video covering this controversial topic:

“The infinite! No other question has ever moved so profoundly the spirit of man,” said David Hilbert, one of the most influential mathematicians of the 19th century. A subject extensively studied by philosophers, mathematicians, and more recently, physicists and cosmologists, infinity still stands as an enigma of the intellectual world. Thinkers clash over questions such as: Does infinity exist? Can it be found in the physical world? What types of infinity are there? Through an interdisciplinary discussion with some of the world’s leading thinkers, this program will delve into the many facets of infinity and address some of the deepest questions and controversies that mention of the infinite continues to inspire.

Let’s find out what these philosophers and scientists have to say about infinity in the video on page 2

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234 Comments

  1. Gary Huey said:

    Time is for us to mark the beginning and the end but the Universe lives beyond our understanding because it is the idea of the Creator!

  2. Bill Lang said:

    Time is a measure of movement. A sundial measures the sun’s movement across the sky or in reality the rotation of the earth. Electronic watch measures the movement of electrons across the battery terminals. Mechanical clocks measure the movement of their mechanism or pendulum. Atomic clocks measure the movement of particles during isotope decay. But movement is not local, expansion means movement is simultaneously happening everywhere in the universe at different rates. Time dilation is really movement dilation. I would agree with commentator Anthony but rephrase it to say that our current understanding of math cannot explain infinity. It appears so far that nothing we need to mathematically measure to understand the universe requires us to have a mathematical solution to infinity and any mathematical result that provides infinity for an answer may be a mathematical error or some as yet undiscovered mathematical concept. Infinity may not even be relevant to our finite existence.

  3. David Nettles said:

    Time is more than a unit of measurement. It’s an active force. Without it, what drives entropy or causes organisms to age? For example, what causes hair to lose color if time has no physical effect?

  4. Michael Beck said:

    This is essentially a “non-topic”. The infinite is a concept, not a “thing”. Coupling time to the concept is illogical and unproductive for the inferred debate. The notion the universe has a beginning or an end is also unnecessarily illusory. It just is. Speculate all you want on origin, but all notions tend to be untestable. Sure, there are observable phenomena to base theories upon, but no phenomena accounts for “all existence”. Our only frame of reference is what falls within the narrow sliver of our (even substantially augmented) ability to perceive.

  5. Patrick Hughes said:

    You’re exactly correct Jimmy Wright. There’s no such thing as time. Time wouldn’t exist without humans any more than inches, feet, miles, or meters. It’s a human concept.

  6. Albert J. Guilliot said:

    Time is a Planck’s voxel wave duration in base 60 mathematics. Any wave duration can be metered in base 60 Babylonian mathematics. So, for not existing, time sure is exact and calculable. I suspect it is relative as relativity and it’s largely depending on the domain your in but I believe even in other domains or parallel worlds time will still be able to be calculated in base 60. It’s just a wave duration in relationship to space and perhaps against the great CPUs processing power.

  7. Albert J. Guilliot said:

    Imagine that all matter is being continually generated to exist. Mess up that timing and you might have 10 arms or things will likely explode from the random crashing and bashing into each other by out of time rouge particles.

  8. Albert J. Guilliot said:

    This debate seems like a infinite Mandelbrot loop just like the difference between something and nothing. Time is a wave duration in base 60 mathematics. Things need a metronome to be actuated like a symphony. One guy starts playing out of time and the whole thing is screwed up! Timing is everything!

  9. Tim Spence said:

    Being that the universe is expanding wouldn’t we assume it was smaller at some point therefore having a beginning?

  10. Albert J. Guilliot said:

    It is not proven that the universe is expanding. I don’t believe it is. I believe we are shrinking within a ridged crystalline lattice matrix for lack of better terminology on my part. This would give the impression of a universe expanding to all that are within as more data fills the same space*.

  11. Jimmy Wright said:

    If the universe began with the big bang and you call that the starting point for time, then what existed before the universe? What was is made of and was it timeless? The big bang would just be the point where humams would like to start counting time. But the truth is something had to exist before the big bang. You cant get a big bang from nothing. I still say there is no beginning or end to time, just point we like to reference as the beginning

  12. Jimmy Wright said:

    If energy can not be destroyed and only change form does that mean energy is exempt from the rules of time? Or would it make more sense that time is just a man made calcuation used to measure the life cycle of things before they change form?

  13. Luis Medina said:

    Data, CPUs, processing power, matrix, Albert J. Guilliot are you a programmer? Do you think the universe works like a computer of some kind? What makes you think we are in a crystalline lattice matrix? Not saying your ideas are wrong they’re very interesting actually which is why I’m asking.

  14. Bill Wilbur IV said:

    You just need to face it… No one knows… No one will ever know. Just say$#%&!@*it and live life.. We do not even know what the deepest part of the ocean holds.. Live and love life or at least try lol.. Peace

  15. Bill Wilbur IV said:

    You just need to face it… No one knows… No one will ever know. Just say$#%&!@*it and live life.. We do not even know what the deepest part of the ocean holds.. Live and love life or at least try lol.. Peace

  16. Dean Rasche said:

    The measurement of time is a human invention. But time itself exists objectively. I shouldn’t have to explain this.

  17. Eric Blake said:

    And I shouldn’t have to explain that humans are the only animals to track such a thing because time is a human concept. To all other animals there is only life and death. Upon death the world ends for them. There is no time, so upon the death of the last human time will end.

  18. Jason Good said:

    Duane Ball the bible took stories that already existed long before the bible was created. They also cherry picked the stories they wanted. They left out tons of stories. They used the bible to crest an ideology to control the masses. So yes there are real stories but doesnt mean God is real. In fact if you go back before the bible by abt a few tgousand years, the sumerian tablets talk abt creation and its not God like the bible says who created us

  19. Ernest A Johnson Jr. said:

    I don’t take that expanding universe stuff I believe its been around forever no beginning or end like some God’s were until people humanized them!

  20. Ernest A Johnson Jr. said:

    Nothing in the bible adds up to historical fact a massive flood the real big one happened millions of years ago all the animals in the world didn’t migrate from a freaking dessert,and not one “Jews”body was ever found in the” wilderness around Israel cause its a dessert, kangaroos don’t swim so did noah drop them off, nothing survives in anythings belly but bacteria, the world isn’t flat nor 6000 years old so what are the facts Duane Ball,we found lucy,tut but not one Jew, your bible was invented by the council of rome most of the disciples never existed and they were Romans with Roman names James
    Peter,Paul wtf! How can light be created before stars, we are not the center of the infinite universe so where and how does the buy bull presents any facts?

  21. Lou E Rainero said:

    infinity is endless, but his premiss that it is also beginningless makes for a mostly indisputable boring closed argument

  22. Walter Dean-Boys said:

    Speculation: there is actually a multiverse.. The Big Bang as we see it was merely a black hole sucking in “space”. On the other side of black holes there is another universe expanding outward from its “Big Bang”..

  23. Derek Jordan Adams said:

    I think the movie interstellar explains all this to a tee but after the 15th time of watching that great movie, I still don’t understand lol

  24. Jason McBride said:

    You’re missing the point, Eric.
    Time existed before humans.
    We live in a three-dimensional world.
    Space.
    Matter.
    Time.
    In order to have matter, you have to have space to house that matter. In order to have space, you have to have time.
    Human beings, like yourself, have no understanding of time. Nothing can exist without it. Not matter, nor space, nor you.

  25. Zane Smith said:

    Gary… Didn’t you know you have to be one of those super educated people that believe in worm holes, black holes moving you between alternate universes and Steady State (which was disproven a hundred years ago) to be included in this discussion.

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